V4.1.x imollie ideal payway

[recamp +]

I don't get it if it's realy so simple than why is there nobody that made a smal script for mollie and ideal paymants so we all can buy it and work with it?
I'am willing to pay if there is somebody that wil make it for me, i life in the netherlands and withhout a ideal payway whe can't work wel because everybody only wants to pay this way.

Sorry for my bad writhing.

I hope to here from somebody that is willing to help.

Regards Marco

[damiun +]

hi,

contact mike-n-tosh he made an icepay ideal mod.
icepay has less fee than mollie.

mvg
dominick

[seymourjames +]

The issue here is that it can cost significant sums to develop a module and therefore the developer needs to recoup his costs and make a profit. Hence without volume sales or customers willing to pay relatively large sums of money for low volume modules, they will not get developed. That is the general case which may or may not be completely relevant in this case.

The real problem is not the technology but the Netherlands is unusual with regard to the admissibility of invoices and receipts generated by most of the normal payment providers that everyone else uses. In addition, this has in turn led to less customers using paypal, etc. Quite frankly it is political and pushed by the tax authorities. You may only guess about the reason behind that but you seem to confirm they have succeeded if people will not use paypal etc. I always thought, that the Dutch on mass would rebel against the rules (going back 5 years or more) but they never did.

It seems the Netherlands make life very difficult for paypal and the big payment processors which are used all over the world and throughout the EU. I have had several requests from the Netherlands for special payment gateways but with only a handful of potential sales it does not make sense to develop for one or two customers - moreover it is too expensive for them. Sorry.

[damiun +]

To explain it a bit more,
Milke-n-tosh developed a Ideal module for me,
We decided not go with mollie because of the high cost etc, So thats why we decided to go with icepay.

The most people in the netherlands dont have a paypal account because why would we.. I have a paypal account but I almost never use it. I prefer paying with moneybookers (also ideal) but then you have to have an moneybookers account and stuff.

But I think thats the reason why most of the people from the netherlands dont have paypal or a creditcard because we dont need it. But I do not agree that the netherlands is making it hard for paypal. But the netherlands is a smaller country and I dont think paypal has any intension of getting the number one payment method used in the netherlands, we are too small (17 million people in the entire netherlands (not included the people from the special areas))

Dominick

[seymourjames +]

Things may have changed in the Netherlands but I can only speak of my experiences some time back.

Paypal is pretty much entrenched as the number one payment provider everywhere else. I can't think of anyone with a larger market share in any other country that accepts electronic payment, save some small states in Africa where paypal refuse to operate. Paypal is certainly the most accessible to the average joe bloggs. You then need to ask the question why it may not be so where you are? I just remember it being very difficult for Dutch friends a few years ago. It was also to do with the banks and their credit/debit cards.I cannot remember all the details.

I think paypal would wish to dominate in the Netherlands. Why would n't they want 17 million relatively affluent customers. Global businesses don't operate on the basis of missing countries out. They try to compete everywhere and allocate resources based on the value of those markets.

[damiun +]

Yeah paypal is the beggest in electronic payments.
But just to give an example of how I now work with paypal, I have to manually transfer money from my bank account to my paypal account (takes max. 10 days). then I can use paypal. The connection between my bank and paypal doesnt work well so I have to do it manually.

And yes the netherlands have 17 million people, But 2 months ago I also had to create invoices regarding advertising, and 9 out of my 17 costumers of that campaing didnt had an email. from that 17 (i also offer the possibility to send invoice digitally and pay instantly with paypal) 0 had a paypal account. but maybe one day everybody has a paypal account... someday

[seymourjames +]

Understood - you can use credit/debit cards and debit cards with paypal a number of times without having to open an account with them. You just click the link (don't have a paypal account). Here, you can do that 5 times before you need to open an account with them.

[damiun +]

Hi,

As far as I know, paying without an account, is only with creditcard.
THe process of getting a paypal account and link it to your bank account to be able to receive bank transfers (although manual) is a hard process (first sign up, you will receive a personal letter send to your home adres with a verification number, then you have to link your bank, paypal will deposit 2 small amounts to your bank, you have to verify the amounts, at last you will again receive a letter with a code to activate your account. It tooik me several weeks to get it running)

If you dont have a paypal account and you click on the link you got the option to pay with creditcard or to sign up.

Greetz,
Dominick

[seymourjames +]

Well you can use a credit/debit card up to 5 times without an account as far as I am aware. As for making an account, I just filled in my details. I could then use the account 5 times before it had to be verified. After that I simply had to type in a small amount of money they sent to my bank account. i do not remember needing any paper work being needed. Perhaps in the Netherlands you still need to give the bank bits of paper. It may alos depend if you have debit cards with your bank account.

[recamp +]

Originally Posted by damiun

To explain it a bit more,
Milke-n-tosh developed a Ideal module for me,
We decided not go with mollie because of the high cost etc, So thats why we decided to go with icepay.

The most people in the netherlands dont have a paypal account because why would we.. I have a paypal account but I almost never use it. I prefer paying with moneybookers (also ideal) but then you have to have an moneybookers account and stuff.

But I think thats the reason why most of the people from the netherlands dont have paypal or a creditcard because we dont need it. But I do not agree that the netherlands is making it hard for paypal. But the netherlands is a smaller country and I dont think paypal has any intension of getting the number one payment method used in the netherlands, we are too small (17 million people in the entire netherlands (not included the people from the special areas))

Dominick

But if you got the mod for icepay can't i buy it than from you?