Module - Newsletter

[teg +]

Originally Posted by Lhotch

And if you dont require some form of verification, and Im a competitor, whats to stop me from simply signing up a bunch of people? Then those people will get your newsletters, unsolicited may I add, complain to you web host and likely get you black listed.

I can understand your desire to make it easy for people but its a double edged sword and you have to understand that requiring registration protects you, potential clients and even strangers.

Which is why l am looking for a simple solution whereby they input their email address and are part of our newsletter.

[Lhotch +]

Originally Posted by teg

Which is why l am looking for a simple solution whereby they input their email address and are part of our newsletter.

You seem to be missing the point totally.

And as a competitor of yours I grab random mail addresses and input their mail address into the newsletter form. Creating a whole bunch of extra mail you have to serve as well as pissing a lot of people off at you because they personally didnt put themselves on your list. They get you black listed and perhaps files complaints with your ISP so they drop you.

[teg +]

Thanks lhotch, l do understand your point and appreciate your comments. I am considering narrowing down the registration details to see if this works. I am slightly concerned that based on your statement the majority of the internet and the companies that reside on it are running their newsletter signup completely wrong which includes the likes of CNET, Amazon and so forth.
As my market is fairly niche, my competitors would not waste their time in such activites as l wouldnt on their site. In time when my service increases and l am driving more traffic then l will have to deal with this issue in the best way l can.

Overal, it appears that there is no easy way to integrate the facility to just allow individuals to add their email address to the newsletter, therefore my only option is to install a separate newsletter program or to cut down the registration form and force users to complete a full registration.
If anyone has an alternative then l would appreciate the feedback.

Regards,
Luke

[Eric Barnes]

Luke,

This newsletter module is set to work only off the user registration. However there are other newsletter scripts that are a lot more powerful than this, that could be installed on your site.

[Lhotch +]

Originally Posted by teg

Thanks lhotch, l do understand your point and appreciate your comments. I am considering narrowing down the registration details to see if this works. I am slightly concerned that based on your statement the majority of the internet and the companies that reside on it are running their newsletter signup completely wrong which includes the likes of CNET, Amazon and so forth.
As my market is fairly niche, my competitors would not waste their time in such activites as l wouldnt on their site. In time when my service increases and l am driving more traffic then l will have to deal with this issue in the best way l can.

It doesnt have to be a competitor it can be some bored script kiddie. My point is you should strive to become part of the spam solution not part of the spam problem.

Most places that allow you to register for a newsletter without registering require you to send mail from your own e-mail account. This ensures that mail is delivered to someone who requested it. Simply filling in a web form doesnt allow for any authentication.

[finding]

I extracted and uploaded the newsletter file/module to the modules folder, but when I click regenerate it does not list the newsletter module. When I look at the remote view of the folder it looks like it is setup right. What might be wrong?

Thank you!

[Eric Barnes]

Check and make sure it has:
modules/newsletter/config.php

[rsirinek +]

may I say that my zip program did not extract subfolders, that is why I also got the error from line 1095

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "send.tpl" in /home/tribweb/www/includes/classes/smarty/Smarty.class.php on line 1095

[canariasdata +]

Hello everybody involved!

Today I wanted to try the newsletter system the first time (that we already have installed for more than 18 month) and found out (after 6 hours newsletter design work!!! ) that my normally excellent hosting provider (hostgator.com) restrict the use of mailings to 500 mails per hour.

We have about 3000 registered users and this makes it for us impossible to use this system.
Other newsletter systems like for example Phplist found a way to throttle the mails and only send a given amount of mails at a given time.

This would be very useful for the next update of the newsletter module and you maybe could consider this a feature request.

[metrony +]

Anything more than 500 from HostGator will just bounce.

"There is a 500 hourly outgoing email limit per domain on all shared servers. This limit is also applied towards mailing lists. If you send over this amount in any hour, the e-mails will fail and may bounce back with a undeliverable error."

Throttling would be ideal or a way to hook this into another mailing list program like Aweber, GetResponse, etc.