vBulletin usershare questions

[philoo]

I am going to add 68C to an important vBulletin portal...

I have not YET choosen if I leave 68C and vB separated or if I share users... My questions is about the reality of the "sharing" concept.

The purchasing area only says "The vBulletin usershare allows forum members to use the same login to enter the classifieds, and if they first register with 68 Classifieds it will automatically register them for your forums. " but I feel it is a little bit more complicated.

For registering, you need basically :
- an email
- a password
- a username

QUESTIONS :

- Is the sharing module a system that try to synchronize two users databases or a system that allow 68C to use the vB users database (that is more developped than 68C one)

- When somebody wants to register (thru vB or 68C) does the sharing module checks if username and email still exists in the other script ?

- If a registered user change his email in one script, is the email updated in the other script ?

- If a registered user ask for a forgotten password in one script, the script will update database with a new password, does it upgrade the two scripts database or only one

- If the registration for only ONE script (vB or 68C) needs an email confirmation, wich way runs the registration on the other script ?

- Is there a periodic synchro tool (like cron job each night/hour...) to check if usernames/passwords are matching between vB and 68C ?

Many thanks

[Eric Barnes]

Hi,

- When somebody wants to register (thru vB or 68C) does the sharing module checks if username and email still exists in the other script ?

This happens only on our end. If they exists in vb but not 68c their details are copied over.

- If a registered user change his email in one script, is the email updated in the other script ?

No it does not do this.

- If a registered user ask for a forgotten password in one script, the script will update database with a new password, does it upgrade the two scripts database or only one

No.

- If the registration for only ONE script (vB or 68C) needs an email confirmation, wich way runs the registration on the other script ?

This would go either way. If they register in vb then try to login to the classifieds the info is copied over.

- Is there a periodic synchro tool (like cron job each night/hour...) to check if usernames/passwords are matching between vB and 68C ?

No but a great idea. The only issue is vbulletin salts the password so it makes it very difficult to do this.

[philoo]

Originally Posted by suzkaw

- When somebody wants to register (thru vB or 68C) does the sharing module checks if username and email still exists in the other script ?

This happens only on our end. If they exists in vb but not 68c their details are copied over.

toto (username) with [email protected] allready exists in vB

if somebody try to register thru 68C with toto (username) and [email protected], what's happen ?
if somebody try to register thru 68C with titi (username) and [email protected], what's happen ?

Wich details are copied over what ?

Originally Posted by suzkaw

- Is there a periodic synchro tool (like cron job each night/hour...) to check if usernames/passwords are matching between vB and 68C ?

No but a great idea. The only issue is vbulletin salts the password so it makes it very difficult to do this.

Eric, I have difficulties to translate/understand "The only issue is vbulletin salts the password". Can you help and give some details ?

[Eric Barnes]

What I would recommend is only using one registration form. Either through the forums or through the classifieds. That will force people to be inserted into one db initially.

Eric, I have difficulties to translate/understand "The only issue is vbulletin salts the password". Can you help and give some details ?

Our passwords are stored as straight md5. vBulletin has a special string in the user table and to store the password they md5 the password and the salt. So the same password has different encryption between the two systems.

[philoo]

Originally Posted by suzkaw

What I would recommend is only using one registration form. Either through the forums or through the classifieds. That will force people to be inserted into one db initially.

De-activate 68C registration could be the best way (it seems very difficult to de-activate vB registration) ...
... but there is an other problem

vB does not require _basically_ country, state, town, zip cod, phone ...that are natively required for a Classifieds website.
So we can add these fields in vB user database for NEW registration but what happens for old members ? Are they asked to complete 68C form after their first logging ?

hum hum ... I think I have to purchase usershare module to check all issues

[Eric Barnes]

So we can add these fields in vB user database for NEW registration but what happens for old members ? Are they asked to complete 68C form after their first logging ?

No it wouldn't ask for this when they first login but when they place an ad it shows these fields again and would require it then.

[Eric Barnes]

hum hum ... I think I have to purchase usershare module to check all issues

That may be best. If you see it doesn't do like you want we can refund the purchase.

[philoo]

Originally Posted by suzkaw

No it wouldn't ask for this when they first login but when they place an ad it shows these fields again and would require it then.

Just purchased the module and it seems running nice : I can login and place ads with vB users.

So, regarding the fields like country, state, town, zip cod, phone ... that are not filled in vB database, they are proposed when vB user place ads, but they are not required .... or I miss something !