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darkqueen + · 08-19-2009, 08:40 PM

under user groups,administrators, there is a dropdown that says

User Groups
Title
Description
This Usergroup is a 'Banned' Group yes or no dropdown(set to yes)
This Usergroup can view your site

how can admins be a banned group ?my brain is bleeding.

Lhotch + · 08-20-2009, 10:03 AM

The system doesnt differentiate admin users from anyone else so all user groups have the same setable options. Can you make admins a banned group? Yes. Would you ever want to, probably not.

At the end of the day sometimes it just doesnt make any sense to spend extra time coding in something that should be blatantly obvious. The only people who should be seeing that screen are admins and if the admins dont have the common sense to not set the admin group to banned then perhaps they shouldnt be admins in the first place.

darkqueen + · 08-20-2009, 08:11 PM

the setting will not give you the option to change to no. i have no idea who changed it,just want to change it to yes.

seymourjames + · 08-21-2009, 05:59 AM

I think your only way back is to look at editing the database. Use PhP admin. The data should look like this I believe for version 4.1.5

-- ----------------------------
-- Records of `class_user_groups`
-- ----------------------------
INSERT INTO `class_user_groups` VALUES ('1', 'Administrators', 'Administrators', '', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'Y'),

when you then have access again you can use the control panel to start setting what values you specifically want.

darkqueen + · 08-21-2009, 12:44 PM

I'm sorry should admins be a banned group or is this a mistake? I don't know who changed it.Thanks for the suggestion about the database,I was trying to figure it out.

seymourjames + · 08-21-2009, 12:50 PM

As Larry said, admins should not be banning the admin group. If you cannot unset it using the admin control panel then you will probably need to change the status of the admin group by directly changing the database. Try it - I am not sure but I think this will un-ban the admin user group.

Lhotch + · 08-21-2009, 01:21 PM

Are you logging in as admin? If so then I think you answered your own question. I dont beleive people who are banned can log in so logic would indicate if you can log into admin and your account is a member of the admin user group then that setting, regardless of what it says, is not relevent to the admin user group.

seymourjames + · 08-22-2009, 05:45 AM

I am confused now whether he has a problem or not.

08-19-2009, 08:40 PM	#1
darkqueen + Customer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 11	admin user group settings under user groups,administrators, there is a dropdown that says User Groups Title Description This Usergroup is a 'Banned' Group yes or no dropdown(set to yes) This Usergroup can view your site how can admins be a banned group ?my brain is bleeding. __________________

08-20-2009, 10:03 AM	#2
Lhotch + curmudgeon Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,416 Rep Power: 139	The system doesnt differentiate admin users from anyone else so all user groups have the same setable options. Can you make admins a banned group? Yes. Would you ever want to, probably not. At the end of the day sometimes it just doesnt make any sense to spend extra time coding in something that should be blatantly obvious. The only people who should be seeing that screen are admins and if the admins dont have the common sense to not set the admin group to banned then perhaps they shouldnt be admins in the first place. __________________ Larry Knowledge *learned* is more valuable than knowledge *given*.

08-20-2009, 08:11 PM	#3
darkqueen + Customer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 11	the setting will not give you the option to change to no. i have no idea who changed it,just want to change it to yes. __________________

08-21-2009, 05:59 AM	#4
seymourjames + All Hands On Deck Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,527 Rep Power: 89	I think your only way back is to look at editing the database. Use PhP admin. The data should look like this I believe for version 4.1.5 -- ---------------------------- -- Records of `class_user_groups` -- ---------------------------- INSERT INTO `class_user_groups` VALUES ('1', 'Administrators', 'Administrators', '', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'Y', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'N', 'Y'), when you then have access again you can use the control panel to start setting what values you specifically want. __________________ "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.". TemplateCodes.com for 68C

08-21-2009, 12:44 PM	#5
darkqueen + Customer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 11	I'm sorry should admins be a banned group or is this a mistake? I don't know who changed it.Thanks for the suggestion about the database,I was trying to figure it out. __________________

08-21-2009, 12:50 PM	#6
seymourjames + All Hands On Deck Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,527 Rep Power: 89	As Larry said, admins should not be banning the admin group. If you cannot unset it using the admin control panel then you will probably need to change the status of the admin group by directly changing the database. Try it - I am not sure but I think this will un-ban the admin user group. __________________ "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.". TemplateCodes.com for 68C

08-21-2009, 01:21 PM	#7
Lhotch + curmudgeon Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,416 Rep Power: 139	Are you logging in as admin? If so then I think you answered your own question. I dont beleive people who are banned can log in so logic would indicate if you can log into admin and your account is a member of the admin user group then that setting, regardless of what it says, is not relevent to the admin user group. __________________ Larry Knowledge *learned* is more valuable than knowledge *given*.

08-22-2009, 05:45 AM	#8
seymourjames + All Hands On Deck Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,527 Rep Power: 89	I am confused now whether he has a problem or not. __________________ "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.". TemplateCodes.com for 68C

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